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DigsySlattery:
Anyone ready for the first big political debate of the new board? Should it be this, with all these states legalizing it and getting things in motion? What's up in Tennessee?

Also, I'm shamefully ignorant on a lot of these topics, so if people have links and stuff, that'd be cool. Is it sad that I get most of my news and info from wikipedia?

carligula:
The solution lies somewhere in having equal legal rights for all citizens without having to compromise the important institutions of our society-- many of which are based on religious beliefs and traditions.

I'm all for gay civil unions with all the benefits of heterosexual unions, but beyond that, you venture into uncertain territory where Church and State just can't seem to separate.

Keith:
Meh. Marriage is a legal institution. You can get married at a court house.

I couldn't care less if two dudes marry or what they call it. It doesn't affect me in the slightest. Let them do it. If anything, I just like the idea of something big and progressive happens in my lifetime. I wasn't alive for woman's suffrage or the civil rights movement. I'm excited about something like this happening in my lifetime. I truly believe that the idea of a black person voting was at some point in time equally or more shocking than two members of the same sex marrying, it's just that perspectives change. And that's a good thing.

DigsySlattery:
I totally agree with Keith. And I really don't care about what laws call it. If civil unions grant 100% of the same rights that marriage does, then fine, the couples themselves can call it marriage if they want. I really don't see any harm in calling it marriage, though, if it does enable the same rights. But I am biased.

deathscythe257:
the deal with the marriage issue is that certain common (judge-made, precedential) law concepts regarding marital property and various other privileged rights won't be available to civil unions until an "activist" judges panel at the state's highest court decides that such concepts are inclusive of civil unions, and that's only likely to be done in a piece-meal case-by-case basis. until that time a civil union will only confer rights statutorily granted to that general class of partnerships. many rights conferred through marriage are solely common law concepts.

that said, buncha faggots i tell you wut

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